Monday, October 17, 2005

More NIF

From Anonymous:

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It isn't just St Pete who has marked NIF as dead. There have been many
scientists at LLNL calling it bad names for years.. mostly pork names.
And like all the bad news that various scientists at LANL would speak
about other LANL scientists and projects for years.. the NIF talk has
perculated to the top of the sewage chain. The snide comments about NIF
from scientists at other DOE facilities just added more floaters.

In the last 6 years, Secretary Abraham and Bodman both had listed NIF as
a dead program. Even Hobson's House committee listed it as useless at
one point but I am guessing the large California delegation changed
that. The main reason I have heard these days for killing NIF is that
most of the scientists there dont believe it will ever work.

Which seems to show that we as scientists have communicated poorly with
the American public for the last 10-20 years. I do not see the populist
scientists that talk to the average American in a clear way. I look at
my copy of Feynman's lectures, Sagan's Cosmos and realize how they
opened my mind to things that my school system didnt have. I remember
reading Isaac Asimov's books on science and beginning to learn to ask
bigger questions about everything from the human body to black holes. I
also remember bringing up some questions in these books in college and
LANL as an intern and being told that anyone who read crap like that got
the ignorance they deserved..

For many years, we have shown this scorn and lack of empathy for
people's beliefs, thoughts, and actions.. Instead of trying to open
horizons, we act like aristocrats right before the French Revolution. We
deserve this money because we know better, you cant understand us
because you believe in God, and a ton of other slights that have build
up into torrent of hate towards us. And yes... this country will
probably rue the effects of the Anti-Science Revolution as the French
eventually did guillotining(sp) of the masses.. but to be honest some of
those people brought it on the rest :(.

These days, the budget of this country will be decided on questions
like: pay for a nuclear laser fusion device or pay for grandma's
medicine.. [and a bridge to nowhere Alaska, and pork here and there.. ]
but Mom and Dad are going to focus on the medical and fuel bills and say
that has a lot more priority than some whiney scientists who would
probably just piss on them for going to church on Sunday anyway.

Anyway.. thats my beef.

Comments:
A pissing match between whiney scientists and Sunday worshippers is NOT a fair-and-balanced match--there are so many of the latter that the former will think they're facing a 50-foot tsunami.
 
Stereotypes aside, there are a whole lot of people in this town who are in both camps.
 
"These days, the budget of this country will be decided on questions
like: pay for a nuclear laser fusion device or pay for grandma's
medicine. Mom and Dad are going to focus on the medical and fuel bills and say that has a lot more priority than some whiney scientists who would probably just piss on them for going to church on Sunday anyway."

DITTO
 
"dug" said: "There are a whole lot of people in this town who are in both camps."

Whiney scientists who are Sunday worshippers (if they are TRUE scientists) should have figured out by now that prayer is a 50-50 deal.

Statistics.

But the sheer number of Sunday worshippers vs. whiney scientists is about 1000:1.

Tsunami.
 
"Whiney scientists who are Sunday worshippers (if they are TRUE scientists) should have figured out by now that prayer is a 50-50 deal."

Sunday worshippers (if they are TRUE religionists) have figured out that religion is not a cargo cult.

I will now pray for these electrons to reach Blogger.
 
Dear "dug":

You have scientifically shown that, if you select very, very carefully what you pray for, you can beat the 50-50 odds. (Now, who are you praying will win the contract? Lockmart?)

-Brad
 
NIF should have been killed a long time ago as the technology is wrong (glass lasers are not a long term path to fusion) and it isn't needed for "Stockpile Stewardship". It is simply a bone for LLNL and, even worse, a path to nuclear proliferation.
That said, what I find offensive about Senator Domenici's efforts is NOT that he proposes to kill NIF, which is the right thing to do, but that he then proposes to use the "saved" money to fund New Mexico pork projects. If he hadn't done that, he'd be a hero. As it is, he is just playing pork games.
Also, Pete knows very well that NIF can't be killed; the California Congressmen won't allow it. What we figure to get is NIF and a good piece of Pete's porky "alternatives", thus the worst of all possible outcomes.
 
Also, Pete knows very well that NIF can't be killed; the California Congressmen won't allow it. What we figure to get is NIF and a good piece of Pete's porky "alternatives", thus the worst of all possible outcomes.
# posted by lucky : 10/19/2005 11:11:53 AM

If this be the case then I don't have much to say good about California's Congressmen. What this tells me is that they are going to let NIF go on even though they know will not work, only so that they can keep people employed at the tax payer expense. That my friends is absolutely wrong no matter how you look at it. Of course if one looks at the latest newspaper articles on what it is going to take to rebuild the soup bowel of Louisiana one can see how stupid we really are. How about $200 billion dollars and they say there is more to come. I'd sure like to take that money and build a hydrogen infrastructure.
 
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