Saturday, August 06, 2005

Report Faults Worker For Lab Contamination

By Adam Rankin
Journal Staff Writer

The Los Alamos National Laboratory researcher who was contaminated by americium-241 and spread the contamination to his home, car and several out-of-state locations did not follow proper lab procedures, a LANL report states.

According to the internal incidence report, the LANL researcher did not adhere to LANL's shipping and receiving procedures when he opened a package from a neighboring lab facility that was contaminated with americium, a radioactive decay product of plutonium.

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Comments:
Well, its not rocket science that the people that gave the package to the worker didn't follow procedures either.

Really makes you wonder how lax the controls are for people coming and going after handling radioactive material. Too lax I guess is the answer.
 
How long is Terry Wallace going to get free passes? C division had another disaster this week too which was covered up for months under Wallace. Wallace is teflon, his people are punished and he jet-sets off to spend time wineing and dining with Bechtel in a luxurious corporate retreat. What is more important, Bechtel winning a contract and making big-bucks, or having leadership stay home at the lab and protect their people? Maybe this wouldn't have happened if he was here doing his job in the first place. Hurry up Paul!!
 
Waht was the disaster in C division?
 
There are lots of "free passes" going around. NMT Division just failed the DOE Operational Readiness Review for the SST Pad Facility. The DNFSB said it was a clear example of programmatic pressure compromising safety and included LASO as part of the problem. LM can't get here soon enough....
 
Poster 09:43 Are you on drugs? Wallace order the immediate stand down of Sigma, and he also ordered the immediate stand down of a chemistry operation. LANL has done internal investigations, and turned over information to LASO.
Personnel actions have already been taken, although the investigations will have to be completed.

I am not actually much of an EB fan, and I am not in SR (I am in HSR), but I think that this post blaming Wallace and ADSR is bogus. "His people are punished while he jet-sets" -- what kinda crap is that? As far as I can tell Wallace, Lemons and Alexander are here working 16 hours a day.

"Stay home and protect their people?" --- what does that mean? People that behave inappropriately must be removed.

There are no free passes.
 
Hey -- this sounds like a post from Paul Follansbee! The MST division leader blames everyone else in the lab for all his problems. Sigma is contaminated? Well, it really is NMT's fault. Oh, there were other issues? Well, that is because Wallace is jet setting. What, now the lab is going to take personnel actions? Well, it is because ADSR did not give Paul all the resources he needed.

Yeah, a whole lot of finger pointing going on. My personal theory is that this is Kuckuck's fault. Hey, he has been here only a little while less that Wallace. Plus, Big Bob is a jet setter.

What ever happened to personal responsiblity?
 
Follansbee works for Wallace. Same difference. Fire them both. In fact, we need to shut down all the work that is not related to MISSION. By mission, I mean the reason the lab is here -- nuclear weapons. Not the bull sh*t "science in the service of the nation" that Wallace loves to push. That stuff is cotton candy. If we fired most of the people is SR this lab would work so much better. Let's face it - some long haired guru in T division living off LDRD (a tax on weapons) writing papers about the big bang is ridiculous.

95% of the problems in the lab are caused by people that hide behind "science is good" motherhood speeches. The lab is here for nuclear weapons. Plain and simple. If you don't get that, then please leave.
 
1:01 - What's your point? Most of the people in Sigma work on the weapons program.
 
To the 9:43 poster - so what is this supposed C Division "Disaster"? Please enlighten up with your inside information.
 
Idea for a new Reality Show---let's all meet near the new NNSB building Monday morning and have a fight to the death. Winners get transferred to Livermore and losers stay.
 
I don't think the comment 9:43 was written by Follensbee. I think it was....drum roll please....Dave Beck. Beck is disgusted with the "science guys", and he is furious that he is not the golden boy of the UC bid. Sounds just like what I heard him saying last week.

I heard that the Chemistry event was something that happened months ago, but the person involved chose to only report it this week. Who knows if the event is real, or something being used to settle an old score. By the way, I doubt that debating an event report on the Blog will result in any more insight than aksing a blind man to paint the Mona Lisa. Of course, that will not stop us ;-)
 
Let's face it - some long haired guru in T division living off LDRD (a tax on weapons) writing papers about the big bang is ridiculous. 8/06/2005 01:01:03 PM

Or how about former weapons physicists now employed in T division writing papers about foraging for food?

There seems to be a whole boat-load of welfare-"science" going on.
 
Actually, the worst welfare offender is B Division. This is a cess pool created by a former DL named Jill. She set up a program that depends on a hundred Post Docs (no tax on those cuties), and LDRD that is not competitive, but directly from Cobb and Nanos. B division stumbles along, competing with universities for NIH money. NIH will not pay LANL taxes, so Cobb gives them LDRD. Of course, the Chief Science Office Bowles (one of the biggest problems in the EB) loves to say "biology is the future". Future of what?
 
Bob- I would beg to differ that the people who "gave the package didn't follow procedures either." I know how items are removed from glove boxes, packaged and shipped. We will see in the next few months how things shake out but I wouldn't be so quick to point fingers back the other direction.
 
4:17 poster

I know who you are talking about
and no one wants that guy in T-divsion. It is sad. This guy
does nothing I mean nothing. What
a waste.
 
So, is anyone in T division actually doing useful work? I suppose that the weapons folks could be transferred to ADWP, and then T division could check out along with EES, B, most of P, LANSCE, and
the worthless support orgs like IM, HR, PS, PM, and my favorite, STB.
 
6:23 poster.

Do you know what the people in
T do? If not, shut up. Get your facts right. You really want to
keep the people in T happy. They count, you do not. They can leave for jobs elsewhere, you cannot.
It is a free market baby and best
will do just fine.
 
What is wrong with you people? Why is the main thing on the blog one part of the lab attacking another part? I don't understand that anger at each other. We are one lab, and that lab has great value to the nation. Instead of making it better, or discussing the future, we have some group just attacking everyone. Why?

I am somewhat in the UC/Bechtel camp, but the issue for me is the future, making the lab productive, and I am proud of much of what LANL has accomplished. I am sickened by the all the hate.
 
8/06/2005 11:52:55 AM:

What is this "SST Pad Facility" that required an ORR and failed so badly that LASO took licks too? Would it perhaps be a CONCRETE PAD intended to serve as a PARKING AREA for a SST? Geez. We're not talking about space shuttle tiles here, we're talking about a PARKING PAD. I wonder if there would have been an ORR if LANL had just decided to park the trailer, uh.. I mean SST, in the dirt instead.
 
Yes, it is a concrete pad -- that has very special instructions on how to build it. Whoops, why should NMT follow directions? By the way, is there any word how ANY material that comes out of the NMT gloveboxes can ever be used since it is contaminated with Am 241? Of course, NMT-11 does not care that the stuff is unusable, because "they delivered". Beck gets a free pass though. I would say he is teflon, but that is too simple. Beck can do no wrong because he comes from HQs to "help us". He is an example of an MBA that provides fine leadership for a technical directorate.
 
Scary how LANL can't even make a concrete pad that's worth a $#!t and we swear the weapons we made will work if needed.
Have fun attacking each other, people. Just watch as RRW goes to Livermore, and you idiots sit around and blame management.
 
Believe me, Beck gets a free pass, but his people don't . He has lectured us and told us that we "don't undrstand radioactivity". Tough guy. No one questions Beck because he fear he will get on the horn and dial up his buddies in Washington.
 
8/06/2005 07:09:00 PM asked
"What is wrong with you people? Why is the main thing on the blog one part of the lab attacking another part? I don't understand that anger at each other. We are one lab, and that lab has great value to the nation. Instead of making it better, or discussing the future, we have some group just attacking everyone. Why?"

This person has a good point. Stop attacking each other. You make the Lab look like a bunch of fools.
 
The lab already looks like a bunch of fools-- this blog just makes it worse. At least it's good for a laugh on Sat night.
 
To 01:01:03 PM "...Let's face it - some long haired guru in T division living off LDRD (a tax on weapons) writing papers about the big bang is ridiculous.
95% of the problems in the lab are caused by people that hide behind "science is good" motherhood speeches. The lab is here for nuclear weapons. Plain and simple. If you don't get that, then please leave."
Just wait until T-div figures out how short they are given the LDRD cut to 5%. They will piss and moan and ask for mitigation. Mitigation my ass, get on the weapons program and contribute, after all there are plenty of $ there. The weapons program is under spending by $100Ms.
AND
to 04:55:47 PM "... the Chief Science Office Bowles (one of the biggest problems in the EB)"
Boy you got that right, both he and Sharp are such long winded useless noise making Nanos loyalists losers and aligned along with Kaye. When do you think Kuckuck will figure that out and can all three of them?
 
Again-
When everyone is wearing burlap bags over their heads, and some start whacking others with sticks, how do you know who is delivering the whacks?

It is bad enough that the congenitally disgruntled are given a platform in center stage, with a fanfare, while they are relieved of responsibility for the damage they do.

However, if an enemy wanted to sow ill will, expose lab weaknesses, put forward red herrings, and undermine confidence within and without, trolling in a predominantly anonymous blog generously hosted by Doug Roberts is a lucrative activity.

Can you imagine duplicity, subterfuge, deception, etc to take place during the critical and delicate events in play affecting LANL’s future? I can, and not necessarily by UC, Bechtel, LM, UT.

Do you recognize the features of Greg, Betty, Chris, Bill, and others of our determined adversaries in some of these posts?

“Thanks Doug, for not suppressing the voices of the Lab’s enemies by allowing them hide their identity while they hurt us,” does not reflect my feeling.
Gary
 
8:24 poster.

No the lab does not look like a bunch of fools. NNSA, DOE, and the media does. Why not ask some people outside of LANL what they think.
 
Poster 08:34:23 PM: LDRD is a program that is supported by HQ, and is valued by the HQ program offices. Plain and simple, LDRD is a fine program. The comment that weapons is underrunning by 100 million -- wow, now that we have a 100 person PADNWP stood up you would think that they could manage the program. Nope. Freddie and his boot lickers have destroyed the weapons program at Los Alamos....he is going to fully prepare LANL for his new boss, Paul Robinson.
 
I hope you guys sober up by Monday......
 
I hope so too.
 
Although it wouldn't be the first time I went to work hung over on a Monday
 
Ah, another LANL employee in the HRP program. And, one wonders, why are there security problems? Safety problems? Of course, it is just a job after all.
 
I go to work hung over EVERY monday
 
Yes, it is a job. Thankfully it ia a meaningless job. LANL's products have been doing nothing but gathering dust for 60 years
 
The comments today seem ironic given the current Hiroshima observations. LANL is self-destructing, a deliberate act by the posters here. I hope all the venom-spewers enjoy their product. You all really do look like fools who cannot even tell when they are being goaded by outsiders on this blog!

I cannot wait to see the reactions when the new contractor arrives in December and begins announcing the managerial, programmatic, operational, and personell changes it will begin making. All rice bowls will be overturned and you better fasten your seatbelts! (This is independent of who wins the contract.)
 
"The comments today seem ironic given the current Hiroshima observations. LANL is self-destructing, a deliberate act by UC Management here. I hope all the venom-spewers enjoy their product. You all really do look like fools who cannot even tell when they are being goaded by outsiders on this blog!

I cannot wait to see the reactions when the new contractor arrives in December and begins announcing the managerial, programmatic, operational, and personell changes it will begin making. All rice bowls will be overturned and you better fasten your seatbelts! (This is independent of who wins the contract.)"

 
One thing LANL has always been good at: implosion.
 
I'm really disappointed to learn that one thing is not going away in the post-Nanos era: We have not lost our compulsion to find someone to blame everytime something abnormal happens. Even when no reasonable person could have foreseen the problem (e.g. the DX-2 explosion), we can't let it go. How many promising careers have to be destroyed before this insanity stops?
 
"How many promising careers have to be destroyed before this insanity stops?"

All of the rest of them, at the rate LANL is going. The only hope to turn this trend around is to get a new contractor in.
 
This "so-called researcher" was a Rocky Flats reject,and also a technician, that had total disregard for lab policy, I knew who the person was, and he was very anal..
 
He was a TSM
 
To poster 8/6/05 0507:22 There are some missing pieces to this story and the rants of the lab members seem to have drifted off subject, but such is life. In reading the actual news item, it gives the impression the spread of contamination occured when the package (outer package) was opened. Is it an acceptable procedure to not package items with removable activity so that the next happless soul that comes in contact with the package does not unknowingly contaminate them selves? Is there no survey data communicated with the material such as a tag or sticker indicating the radiological status? Such is the value of the news.
 
8/10/2005 01:15:09 PM said:
"To poster 8/6/05 0507:22 There are some missing pieces to this story and the rants of the lab members seem to have drifted off subject, but such is life."

One question that sticks in my mind is about the tag the RCT found in the trash can ten days after the incident. I wonder where would we be if the trash can was emptied before the RCT saw it. Hopefully, someone would have stumbled upon the contamination before it traveled much further than it did (White Rock, Colorado, Kansas, Pennsylvania).
 
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